Dear everyone who is like, Whelp! There's my Monday at BEA filled up. WHAT ALL ARE YOU DOING THAT DAY? I am clearly missing something(s).
Also. I writ about waiting on A Song of Ice and Fire and waiting on serieses in general and IMPATIENCE versus a desire for quality, and then in the comments someone is like 'someone should have checked the news before posting this,' which...what? Seriously, what. Has GRRM died in the last 24 hours? Because I think googlenews would be up on that. SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT THIS COMMENTER MEANS.
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ReplyDeleteSTILL baffled. Is it because Book Five is allegedly coming out now? But I MENTION that in the first paragraph, and IMPLY it in the fourth.
ReplyDeleteI think it is because the book isn't just allegedly coming out, it is done being written and definitively coming out.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, I'll believe that when I hold book 5 in my eager, disillusioned hands and not a moment before.
ReplyDeletewhatever. seems silly to doubt it when it isn't promises on his blog or a mystery date on amazon but a press release from the publisher accompanied by video evidence of the completed manuscript in the hands of an editor, but if people still want to doubt, go ahead.
ReplyDelete@Anonymous: having weathered several other books that are Swear on my Mother's Grave will be out at a certain time and come release day are pushed back...I'm with Tikabelle--I don't trust it until its in my hands.
ReplyDeleteAs far Monday before BEA...as far as I know the only thing going on is the Teen Author Carnival in the afternoon/evening. Hmm something else? ::goes to investigate::
are those books that received a major marketing push? this would be like JK rowling saying harry potter 7 was coming in july and then the date being pushed back -- once a publisher has started the marketing machine, they aren't going to pull back if they can avoid it in any way.
ReplyDeleteand even then, the book is done. all those other times were vague hopes from george or a publisher's best guess translating to a soft date on amazon.
@anon: at least one was, including printing sample chapters (up to chapter 4) in numerous other 'similar' titles from the Publisher's line, sending out a massive campaign to libraries, a book trailers, reprinting the other volumes, as well as most of the author's backlist and taking requests from bloggers/reviewers for galley editions of the novel. And the promotion campaign began 18 months before the book was published, but when release day came it was not avail anywhere, with no word from the publisher in regards to what happened until the Amazon buy page was taken down and the author made a snarky, indignant remark on their blog.
ReplyDeletethe others not as much, but they were more 'niche' and thus really only a certain demographic was upset by the continual delays and promises.
I don't mean to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but a press release is another form of a promise, which is NOT a real thing by definition, and even a 6-year-old could write "A Dance of Dragons" on the top sheet of a ream of paper and call it a complete manuscript.
ReplyDeleteYes, I doubt, and HARD, because I have been waiting for this book for five years when I was told by GRRM himself that he hoped to have it out "within a year" back July of 2005. Since that time, I've been tantalized by dates from publishers and Amazon alike, and yet no book 5 has passed through my eye-portals into my brain.
Will I buy the book? Yes. Will I probably like it? Again, yes. But will I maintain my skepticism until I see it with my own eyes because it's easier than the last several years of empty promises and disappointments? A thousand times, y-e-s.
No, it seems as though Google news is still stuck on the royal wedding. I spoofed it here:
ReplyDeletehttp://jabbercookie.blogspot.com/
I really like your blog, btw. You're very funny.
"Yes, I doubt, and HARD, because I have been waiting for this book for five years when I was told by GRRM himself that he hoped to have it out "within a year" back July of 2005."
ReplyDeleteThe key word there seems to be "hoped." I have been waiting for this book a long time too, but this is the first time I can recall Martin ever saying that the book was done before. He has made statements like "things have been going well, IF I can get the book done in the next two months, it could be out by the end of the year." Always qualified: if, hope, etc.
He's never said "the book is done." Ever. His publisher has never said that the final manuscript had been delivered before. I agree with Anon, it seems silly to continue to doubt at this point. What would the motivation be?
From GRRM's website:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.georgerrmartin.com/if-update.html
In my house, we all live in fear of him dying before he finishes book 7.