My theory class, to a person, did not like Chinua Achebe's Things Fall Apart. We weren't reading it for class, so most of us had read it many years ago and couldn't really articulate why, but none of us liked it. My theory class, to a person, is also white, middle-to-upper-class kids in their twenties.
I like books by dead white men and living white women. This is a descriptive, not prescriptive, statement. I don't go out looking for books by dead white men and living white women, nor do I solely read books by dead white men and living white women. But the authors that I love and didn't think I could help loving are the Charles Dickens and the Wilkie Collins and the Connie Willis and the Tana French and the Barbara Vine.
I think my aesthetic preferences might be racist. This is not talked about nearly enough, because racism is a topic for egg-shells and tiptoes. But I was raised on a diet of white, Euro-centric authors and when I read books by Japanese authors or Sudanese authors or Aboriginal authors I almost invariably don't like them.
A large part of this is me not being used to them, and having no context to put them in. I can't tell if they're good. The discussion on Achebe's Things Fall Apart soon became a debate about whether it wasn't good or whether we weren't used to the aesthetic. It might be legitimately awful, but we couldn't say for sure. A blogger recently reviewed a compilation
Because there's a difference between saying it's no good and saying I don't like it. Curry is good, but I don't like it. An abstract painting may be good, but I probably won't like it either. The difference with literature is, I think, a sense of responsibility. There is hella whiteness in published books these days and I have been part of the problem. I like what I like because I read what I've been fed, and maybe that hasn't been my fault but it is now.
Those in power in academia control what is taught in universities, and I can do little about that except write a strongly-worded letter. What I can and feel I should do as a reader is seek out authors of different origins and ethnicities, and I know that there are many other bloggers and challenges that do this deliberately. Good on them. But I want to clarify that my reasons for thinking and doing this are not to ease my white guilt, or to mix up the racial profile of the NYT Best-Seller list just for the sake of mixing it up.
I like good books. I don't think I should read an Ethiopian author to 'fill my quota' even though she isn't good, but I'm afraid she may be good and I just won't notice. We've talked in the intertubes about changing the face of publishing by letting publishers know that we will buy books by and about notwhitepeople, but I also want to change the shape of my brain-pan so that this is actually a true statement I'm making, and not just a moral position I feel I should uphold.
And it might not be true. I might not like Vietnamese authors. But I gave mushrooms a good many goes before deciding I didn't like them, and every so often I'll give one a cautious nibble just to see. Still not a fan. But you can't say you don't like it if you've never tried it (thanks, mom), and tried it well.
So I guess this is my manifesto for 2011: try it well. I'll be reading much dead white ladies for my honors thesis (in which Daphne du Maurier faces off against Charlotte Bronte) but in my extracurricular reading I want to vary my usual beloved mix of Victorians and contemporary white folk. As the winsome Henry Tilney says, it is well to have as many holds on happiness as possible. So you've found me out at last - this is equal parts high-mindedness and selfishness. I want to like more things.
What things do you like?
Also, aside, there are probably mannny problematic things in this post that I'm totally not aware of. Please point them out, but please do not yell at me. This is my other beef - I want to be able to say racist and privileged things by accident and have someone point it out to me without shouting because I am trying and how the hell else am I supposed to know if I'm not allowed to make mistakes? Let us all correct each other's errors, but let us all assume we all mean well, ok? Ok.


I'm not going to shout. I think you made some excellent points.
ReplyDeleteTwo non-white authors whose work I love are Edwidge Danticat, who writes searing, beautiful books about Haiti and Haitian immigrants, and Chimamanda Ngobe Adichie, whose Half of a Yellow Sun is one of my all-time favorite novels.
I shall comment more on this later, but I just wanted to say, for the record, that I never wrote that the style of the compilation was unprofessional! I wrote that the contributors weren't professional writers, meaning they don't write full-time for a living. ;)
ReplyDeleteI'm so happy you posted this. It is really hard to think about challenging normative white-people behavior that, by its nature, can go happily unchallenged forever. It's even harder to talk about it with other people. I use goodreads to find new books (rather than browsing the carefully-arranged tables of my bookstore). I suggest:
ReplyDeleteChimamanda Ngozi Adichie is Nigerian and supposed to be amazing, especially Half of a Yellow Sun. I haven't read her yet but she's on my to-read shelf. She actually gave a great (and really funny) TED talk on the very issue you're describing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Ihs241zeg
If you haven't read the big people in the African-American lit canon, that would be the best place to start: Zora Neale Hurston (Their Eyes Were Watching God), Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man), Maya Angelou (I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings), Toni Morrison (anything), Martin Luther King (Letter from the Birmingham Jail, Why We Can't Wait), etc, there are others but that's a good place to start. These 5 are some of my favorite writers of all time.
Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o (Kenyan, Haruki Murakami (Japanese), and Yiyun Li (Chinese) are also all really good.
Bethany
Interesting post, Raych. I think CULTURAL differences (such as books by people from other countries) are a little bit different like you said...no context. Also you often have to throw in that middle translation man which might confuse things.
ReplyDeleteAnd I love Japanese literature but have often wondered if I would appreciate it less if I hadn't been there.
I really love what you've said here about taste, though, and I have to agree about mushrooms.
You're a brave woman, R. I admire you for it.
ReplyDeleteHere are some of my favourite books not by Whitey:
Go Tell it on the Mountain: James Baldwin
The Toughest Indian in the World: Sherman Alexie
Green Grass, Running Water: Thomas King
Shame: Salman Rushdie
Such a Long Journey: Rohinton Mistry
Blue Bamboo: Osamu Dazai
Norwegian Wood: Haruki Murakami
Battle Royale: Koushun Takami
As you like long Victorian novels, I'm also told Junichiro Tanizaki's The Makioka Sisters made people refer to him as the Japanese George Eliot. I haven't read it yet. I like his collection The Gourmet Club an awful lot though.
I've never really thought about this. Does that make me stupid or clueless? Maybe! I just read whatever, and rarely give a thought to the culture or color of the author. I do see Ms. Zora Neale Hurston got some love in the above comments, deservedly. And I am besotted with Jhumpa Lahiri - her prose is the definition of beauty. And one of my all-time favorite YA authors is Jacqueline Woodson. I am going to start to pay more attention though...
ReplyDeleteI second Sandy's nomination of Jhumpa Lahiri--Unaccustomed Earth is an amazing book.
ReplyDeleteI can't tell if they're good.
ReplyDeleteOf course you can. You rely on the judgments of more sympathetic and knowledgeable readers. Welcome to literary history!
Otherwise, what are you assuming about readers who claim a high status for Things Fall Apart? That's they're suckers, or dishonest?
The study of literature - of anything - means learning to set aside the "do I like it" question. It doesn't matter if you like the Sudanese novel, etc. It matters if you read it well.
This reminds me of Mayra Lazara Dole's comments that many readers have told her some of her Latino characters seem over the top, when she feels they're realistically over the top as are many people in her Latino community (gah I've probably mangled it). Difficult, but I try to keep it in mind when I read something and think 'whut, but that doesn't fit with the generally agreed standards of goodness'.
ReplyDeleteI like the idea of liking more not just trying to understand what prejudices might keep us from liking something. Very genuine and I'm going to keep checking the comments to see what this discussion will bring (learning I hope). Quick book recommendation along these lines - right now I'm reading Sea of Poppies by Amitav Ghosh and loving it.
"A large part of this is me not being used to them, and having no context to put them in. I can't tell if they're good."
ReplyDeleteI can relate.
A few years ago now (wow. 15 years ago. Crap, I'm getting older.) one of my courses was Native American lit, the first time it had been offered at my university. And just to add to the drama, we had a white prof and a mostly 50/50 mix of white and native students. Talk about a powderkeg.
Our prof was extremely well-read in the genre, and eventually brought in some Native guest lecturers who confirmed that she really knew her stuff, but it was the most emotionally difficult class I've ever taken. I realized that, yes, I WAS walking around with unexamined prejudices.
One of my classmates made the interesting point that we were studying native literature but using white methods of analysis, and wouldn't it make sense to learn an alternative way of looking at literature. We talked a bit about how to do that, but I wished we had time to explore the idea further.
Great post, Rachel, and good luck.
This so much: "This is my other beef - I want to be able to say racist and privileged things by accident and have someone point it out to me without shouting because I am trying and how the hell else am I supposed to know if I'm not allowed to make mistakes? Let us all correct each other's errors, but let us all assume we all mean well, ok?"
ReplyDeleteAlso, if you like sci-fi Octavia E. Butler is one of my favorite African-American female writers... actually, she's pretty much just one of my favorite writers.
Recognizing a problem is the first step to remedying that problem, so good for you!
ReplyDeleteOther book bloggers have thought about this before, so here are a few recommendations:
Color Online (http://coloronline.blogspot.com/) - This site focuses on women of color who write books for children, YA, and/or adults.
Kinna Reads is a book blog that features quite a lot of world literature. You might find something you like in the review index (http://kinnareads.wordpress.com/reviews-by-author/)
Words Without Borders is an organization and online magazine that focuses on translated international literature. They also have a section of book reviews. (http://wordswithoutborders.org/)
Then, of course, there are the reading challenges. I've found it helpful sometimes to just Google a particular challenge and then peruse lists of books that bloggers intend to read (or have read) for the challenge. Challenges like Orbis Terrarum, and specific regional challenges (e.g. Arabic Summer Reading Challenge, Japanese Literature Challenge, South Asian Author Challenge) might be a good start.
Now for books/authors I've read and I think you might enjoy:
Purple Hibiscus by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
The Beautiful Things that Heaven Bears by Dinaw Mengestu
The Twentieth Wife by Indu Sundaresan
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
Blindness by Jose Saramago (but not for the faint of heart!)
The Shadows of the Pomegranate Tree by Tariq Ali
Hope this helps!
Some non-white person books I read and liked:
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The New Moon's Arm by Nalo Hopkinson
But I must say I like books by women (these being women & super-womanly books at that) and that is my preference. And when I do read a book by a man that I like often the protag is a woman. I wonder if I have a problem with the men. I do think that I might when I really think about it, or is it that women write more books than men? Hmm.
Interesting thoughts Rachel.
I love how this has sparked a chain of most awesome book recommendations.
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Amy - Thanks for using your inside voice. I read something by Danticat once and was middling on it, but I think I would like it more if I gave it more of a go. The Adichie is coming up a lot. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteEva - Fixed! The misuse of 'professional' to mean 'good' and 'amateur' to mean 'bad' is one of my pet peeves. We have dictionaries for a reason, people.
eyots - Thanks for the awesome list! I've always wanted to read Invisible Man, and I really enjoyed Their Eyes Were Watching God.
Amy - Oh man, don't even get me started on translation. I hate hating a book and wondering if it's the book or the translation is the problem.
Colleen - I bask in your admiration. I have un-enjoyed Murakami and Rushdie in the past, but may give them each a second chance. Mistry makes me cry in all the good ways.
Sandy - I hadn't thought of it either. It just came up in class and I started thinking in terms of all the race-fail conversations in the bloggonets in the last year.
Amy - I have a Lahiri on my stack somewhere. I'll be adding it to my reading for next year.
Amateur Reader - No one said, but I think that was the assumption! Or at least, that white people were saying it was good because they felt like they HAD to.
And I'm still young and silly enough to want to 'like' things, though I suppose learning to read well increases the odds of liking. I never would have liked Faulkner if I hadn't read him braced by my entire early 20th century American literature class.
Jodie - Sea of Poppies! I meant to read that. I feel like we read books to expand our knowledge of people not like us, but then we judge them based on what we know of people like us. It seems like a self-defeating system sometimes.
Dionne - That is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. I use my white methods of appreciation and analysis and I never learned to look at literature differently. Also, the racial tension in that class would make me break out in hives.
Amy L. - On the list she goes! And I just want to live in a world where we all give everyone the benefit of the doubt. *idealist face*
M - Yes, a lot of those blogs came up in the aftermath of the various whitewashing/racefail discussions in the last year. And thanks for the booklist! I loved Blindness, but I had to read it in full daylight.
Chris - I ALSO like books by women, which totally surprised me when I realized it about myself. I spent much of my teens being all, Ugh, female writers. When really what I mean was Ugh, Margaret Lawrence (and sometimes Margaret Atwood).
Celine - You're welcome! I am building myself a beautiful tbr for next year.
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ReplyDeleteI didn't like Things Fall Apart either, but there are plenty of books by Africans about Africa that I LOVE, two of my favorites have already been mentiond here: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie and Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o. I think you would love Sherman Alexie and I love Louise Erdrich, you might too. I'm reading Andrea Levy right now and The Last Song is so far wonderful. I'll try to think of some more!
ReplyDeleteI'm trying to correct this very problem in myself right now by consciously choosing more books by people of color. It does bother me sometimes that virtually all of my favorite books are written by white people - but I had an education very similar to yours, and I'm going to watch eagerly as you try to expand your knowledge as I hope I'm expanding mine.
ReplyDeleteNot young and silly. We all still like whatever we like. But is that as far as we can go? Is that as far as we want to go? If I understand the place of Things Fall Apart in Nigerian literature, and what its best readers get out of it, that's a valuable experience and valuable knowledge, whether or not I like the book.
ReplyDeleteMake that assumption, that white scholars who assign a high status to Things Fall Apart are dishonest, explicit in class sometime. See what happens. Should be a good discussion.
When people write about this, there's usually at least one response of "I just read what I like! I don't have to fill a quota! I can't help it if I only like white authors!" The thing is, in this publishing climate, you don't find a lot of books written by PoC (or queer people, or people with disabilities, or trans* people, or feminists, etc) unless you look for them. White authors are published more because they're not seen as "white authors", they're seen as authors. Just like straight aren't labelled "straight authors", etc. You really have to poke around to find the authors and books labelled as alternative. It's always awesome when people acknowledge that.
ReplyDeleteI recommend the LJ group http://community.livejournal.com/50books_poc They've got over 1000 posts and it updates pretty often. They also have a whole pile of tags, if you want to look for just japanese authors or fantasy books or whatever.
Lu - Thanks for the recs! I am getting excited about a lot of these names.
ReplyDeleteMeghan - It's hard, right? You have to be deliberate. And it's overwhelming, I think, to realize all of your biases and try to correct them.
AR - Alas, that class has run its course. I could bring it up in the middle of the final exam, but I doubt that would go over well for reasons that have nothing to do with race. If Theory Class II - The Second Semester seems amiable (i.e. if my prof is not a Shouty McShouterson) I will bring this up again.
lesbrary - Right? Right. My sudden epiphany is that I maybe CAN help what I like. I know this isn't news to other people, but it is to me. Thanks for the LJ rec.
I tend to like dead white women the most, I must say--but as I start thinking about reading the quote Western quote Classics unquote unquote, I'm trying to grapple with some similar questions. I love that you wrote this post!
ReplyDeleteGreat post, Raych. Good insights.
ReplyDeleteLove love love this post and the comment suggestions. Love so much that I just linked on my facebook, because I know it can't be true of just me.
ReplyDeleteHi! It's only my second visit to your site and first time to comment (as I only discovered it about two weeks ago). I really enjoyed reading your post.
ReplyDeleteI must say that I used to feel the same way, but in the opposite. That is, I tended to favor (before) authors of non-white descent and who write about non-white culture or topic.
I have long realized that, and I found that it's because I was born and raised ('til I was 15) in an Asian country. It wasn't because our school curriculum consisted of mainly Asian books and writers. It's actually the opposite! We're given MORE foreign (including white authors and topics) material in our literature classes than written by authors from our own country.
I feel that it's my upbringing and experiences growing up in a non-white country that made me favor more non-white authors. And authors of non-white descent tend to write about ideas that I easily relate to.
It wasn't until I moved here to the US that I learned to appreciate other authors and writings. And I managed that by learning and reading about other countries' history and culture (just basic stuff). This really helped me "like" white authors (but still working on it). :)
Here are some books I liked by Asian authors:
Joy Luck Club - Amy Tan (I read all her other novels and liked them as well)
Sister of My Heart - Chitra Banerjee Divakaruni (she followed this up with Vine of Desire)
Women of the Silk - Gail Tsukiyama (sequeled with The Language of Threads)
God of Small Things - Arundhati Roy (a bit difficult to read but is still good)
A Fine Balance - Rohinton Mistry (quite sad but wonderful)
When the Elephants Dance - Tess Uriza Holthe (has mini-stories within)
Also, I LIKED Things Fall Apart! And I'm wondering why you guys didn't like it?
I found this so interesting. I am probably nearly the opposite in that most of my favorite books are by (or about) nonwhite people. I loved Things Fell Apart when I read it as a teenager. I'm not sure how I would feel about it now, but I have fond memories of it. Some books I recommend (that I didn't see already on the comments list):
ReplyDelete~The Color Purple by Alice Walker (though you may want to ease into that one, as the language is very different)
~What Looks Like Crazy on an Ordinary Day by Pearl Cleage
~Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi (graphic novel)
~Saffron Dreams by Shaila Abdullah
~A Thousand Splendid Suns by Khlaed Hosseini (one of my favorites)
~A Disobedient Girl by Ru Freeman
Good luck on your journey! I can't wait to find out what you discover through this experience. :)
Cheers for reading well! Best to you in your focus to find more things to like. Wonderful post.
ReplyDeleteI'm unlurking to write the very-uninteresting comment that I really enjoyed this post, and you managed to put into words something that's been buzzing about in my head for some time without being clearly defined. So thanks. I'll definitely be checking out some of the books recommended above.
ReplyDeleteAs an aside, I actually really liked Things Fall Apart, though I, too, read it too long ago to really remember why. I do remember hating it while reading it, but then, upon finishing, it stuck with me and I completely changed my mind after lots and lots of mulling.
Please read John Edgar Wideman's "Brothers and Keepers" and another book called "Black No More." The first is great at showing the institutional racism in the United States. And the second spoofs the African-American equal rights movement of the 1950s. I think you will like them.
ReplyDeleteOk, I'm back. :)
ReplyDeleteAs far as suggestions go...I'm reading 50% POC authors these days fiction-wise (and about 33% on the nonfiction front), so I can only say if you like a book I mention on my blog, you've got a good shot that it's by a POC author! I've found that the more I read by authors from a certain culture, the more I appreciate it since I start to 'get' the little things and their culture becomes familiar to me. So I definitely think your plan will work! :) Maybe pick a country/culture you have some kind of innate interest in to get you started?
Ugh. I just wrote a ridiculously long comment and then lost it. But I was already planning on doing a post about these kinds of issues, so you'll be seeing more from me soon! (I had planned to do it last month, but then The Incident (lol) occurred and I wanted to wait for the furor to die down.)
P.S.: I forgot to add that I've read quite a few Chinese fiction authors at this point, and I've liked exactly one of them (Eileen Chang). I keep thinking I'll adjust, but perhaps it's not meant to be.
ReplyDeleteI *really* agree with what Amateur Reader said: it doesn't matter if you like it; it matters if you read it well. I think this is *especially* the case in books that are hard to relate to based on your own cultural background.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was in learn-to-be-a-teacher grad school, I read an article about a study wherein Hispanic students who were apparently doing poorly in their English classes were asked to read books about Hispanic characters. Well, what do you know, given books about characters they could relate to (I think it was Bless Me Ultima but I can't be sure), suddenly they like reading a lot more than they used to.
Books I can relate to are inherently more interesting for me than those that are not. The exception for this rule is when I am on a particular cultural high: I have a thing for fiction by Indian authors or about India (The Space Between Us, The Toss of a Lemon, The Namesake, Babyji).
Anyway, my point: relatability makes a big difference in enjoyability. And you can still recognize and appreciate Good Writing, but you don't have to enjoy it any more than the Hispanic teens in the study I read should have been expected to enjoy A Separate Peace (or what have you). I don't think not enjoying books by non-white authors necessarily makes a (white) person racist; I think it's more that we enjoy what we can relate to and that depends on the culture in which we were raised.
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Thanks for this interesting post.
ReplyDeleteThough my demographic is more like you and your classmates (+a decade), I was exposed to many non-white/non-western authors from a young age. My mom was an English teacher and, though I didn't realize it at the time, she must have made a semi-conscious effort to vary my literary exposure.
(And, though anecdotes are not the same as causal relationships, I loved "Things Fall Apart".)
I've been thinking of this lately because I find it is hard to find some of the children's authors I grew up reading. But your post brought home the connection in adult literature: Why don't I read more by some of the authors I have loved in the past (Toni Morrison, Chinua Achebe, Zora Neale Hurston, Laura Esquivel, Walter Dean Myers)? Is it because they aren't discussed as much or as prominent in bookstore displays?
I like to read your blog (for the writing style and) because you talk about books I might not have though about reading. I look forward to seeing what you have to say on this new batch of books I haven't (recently) considered reading.
I thought my kids' grade school did a better than fair job of exposing the kids to more than just white writers. And then they got to middle and high school and back they went to the old standards. I say remove "The Scarlet Letter" from high school curricula and add something from another culture. But then I always advocate removing "Scarlet Letter!"
ReplyDeleteRaych- I'll skip my agreement with lots that has been said (and seconding of lots of recommendations made so far) and suggest that one place you might want to start is with immigrant literature. Sometimes books written specifically about the clashing of cultures (Joy Luck Club, The Namesake, The Corner of Bitter and Sweet come quickly to mind) are a good entree into a different culture, but written for a N. American novel audience.
ReplyDeleteI also think you would like at least some of Mario Vargos Llosa (Nobel winner and all). Start with Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter. It has family scandals, cleverly intertwining plot lines and characters going crazy-- you may or may not be a fan of how it all gets put together, but there's lots of elements we know you like.
I may be repeating some of the above postings but I'm sure there are white authors you don't like also -- maybe it's just percentages. There are just so many more white authors -- if you broke down the number of white authors you liked vs. those you didn't, you might have the same ratio. The vast difference in the number of books published by minorities vs. whites in this country just skews everything.
ReplyDeleteLately I've tended toward the Dead White Authors myself, but some of my favorite books by people of color are:
Waiting by Ha Jin
Their Eyes Were Watching God by Zora Neale Hurston
A Fine Balance by Rohinton Mistry
Brick Lane by Monica Ali
Like Water for Chocolate by Laura Esquivel
The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian by Sherman Alexie (YA)
The Birchbark House by Louise Erdrich (Juvenile)
I have to second (or third?) the recommendation for Dinaw Mengestu's The Beautiful Things That Heaven Bears. I think you'll like it.
ReplyDeleteAlso, Black Boy by Richard Wright. I had to read it in school and didn't really remember anything that happened in it. But when I came back to it almost ten years later, I loved it. It's more entertaining that you might imagine.
I second Octavia E. Butler! She's fascinating and disturbing and one of my all time favorite authors. I'd recommend starting with "Kindred".
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I wish more people would stop shouting at people when they esay they want to learn about different cultures/get over white privilege. It totally ruins the dialogue when someone makes a statement and is drowned out by calls of "That's RACIST!". Well unless it's really blatantly racist, but that's even more rare these days.
ReplyDeleteANYHOO, I just wanted to say that I don't think you can ever dismis an entire group of writers like "I don't like Vietnamese writers" becuase there's always an exception. Just like you can't say "I love all Irish writers." so I'm glad you're giving a more diverse group of authors a try :)
And I heartedly second Chimamanda Ngozi adichie's work. I've only read her debut, Purple Hibiscus, but it was just stunning.
If you want more fun reads, slightly less 'literary', try Devil in a Blue Dress by Walter Mosley (classic mystery) and 32 Candles by Ernessa T. Carter (you will love this if you like John Hughes).
Read James Baldwin - Notes of A Native Son. It is non-fiction/autobio/ wise reflections on life. Also (to me, some one who is also guilty of mainly reading boos written by white people) very well written. I realise this is fairly old blog post, but I have revision to do and am reading your 'older posts'
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